Dr. Ben Carson listed out why more black Americans are resonating more with Trump and may vote for a Republican candidate this election cycle.

Carson said this during an interview on CNN’s “State of the Union” when anchor Jake Tapper asked if former President Joe Biden could see his numbers improved after getting 12% of the black vote in the 2020 election against President Joe Biden.

“I think, you know, black Americans are no different than any other Americans. They feel the pinch of the inflation. You know, they know what it feels like when they have to go fill up their gas tank,” Carson stated.

“They see the crime that’s running rampant, that people, repeat offenders are being let out of prison and endangering them and their neighborhoods,” he continued, adding, “They see what’s happening with the border and how that’s impacting their own communities, how other people’s issues are being put on the front burners and theirs are being put on the back burners. I think those are the issues that are pushing them toward Trump.”

Carson, a black man who served as Secretary of Housing and Urban Development in the Trump administration, also touched on his consideration for Trump’s VP position. While he said he has not had a conversation with Trump about the position, he said that he would be “willing to discuss policies, the differences” if a debate ever comes up between him and Vice President Kamala Harris, the first black person to serve in the role.

“We have a unique situation, where you have juxtaposed two different administrations with different philosophies. And people can see, how did one feel versus how did the other feel? And I would love to debate with her or with anyone about that,” he added.

Recent polling has shown that more black voters, particularly the men, are shifting towards Trump in the 2024 election across several battleground states.

The youngest daughter of civil rights icon Martin Luther King Jr., Bernice King, said last week that black people are more attracted to Trump and the Biden administration needs a better strategy to address the concerns of black voters more efficiently.

“I think there are people in the black community who are feeling like not a lot has changed, especially economically, in the black community, and I think many of them are being driven by that,” she stated, adding, “And it’s not speculation, especially black males who seem to be more attracted to Donald Trump and his candidacy, and I think there has to be a plan, a strategy for the Biden administration to really creatively figure out how to reach especially this next generation who’s very disgruntled right now with the Biden administration.”